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		<title>By: Antigen</title>
		<link>http://divineaegis.com/2009/10/13/l2discipline-stat/comment-page-1/#comment-552</link>
		<dc:creator>Antigen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jun 2010 19:02:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice write-ups; I&#039;m leveling a Disc Priest myself using only the Dungeon Finder and I have to say, it&#039;s pretty fun so far. I was wondering though, do you have plans to continue these posts (i.e. the enchants/gems/gear post you mentioned)? They&#039;d be a big help for when/if I hit 80.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice write-ups; I&#8217;m leveling a Disc Priest myself using only the Dungeon Finder and I have to say, it&#8217;s pretty fun so far. I was wondering though, do you have plans to continue these posts (i.e. the enchants/gems/gear post you mentioned)? They&#8217;d be a big help for when/if I hit 80.</p>
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		<title>By: Discipline Priest Resources &#171; Soul Warding</title>
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		<dc:creator>Discipline Priest Resources &#171; Soul Warding</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Feb 2010 02:27:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] L2 Discipline: Introduction (Talents) (Glyphs) (Stats) [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Rokareot</title>
		<link>http://divineaegis.com/2009/10/13/l2discipline-stat/comment-page-1/#comment-497</link>
		<dc:creator>Rokareot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 21:33:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very nice post, I myself are a disc priest in all forms of content and any info old or new is good info.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very nice post, I myself are a disc priest in all forms of content and any info old or new is good info.</p>
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		<title>By: Raegar</title>
		<link>http://divineaegis.com/2009/10/13/l2discipline-stat/comment-page-1/#comment-175</link>
		<dc:creator>Raegar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 22:15:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great series i am loving all the attention disc is getting now (we deserve it :P)

@Jbs: I agree with Lilitharien that Disc-curious is awesome but i think that Matticus has the best one with ambi-spec-tirous. (pardon the spelling)










~ Oh you thought you could kill me? Thats cute.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great series i am loving all the attention disc is getting now (we deserve it :P)</p>
<p>@Jbs: I agree with Lilitharien that Disc-curious is awesome but i think that Matticus has the best one with ambi-spec-tirous. (pardon the spelling)</p>
<p>~ Oh you thought you could kill me? Thats cute.</p>
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		<title>By: Lilitharien</title>
		<link>http://divineaegis.com/2009/10/13/l2discipline-stat/comment-page-1/#comment-167</link>
		<dc:creator>Lilitharien</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 16:24:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Matojo: Nothing wrong with crit! Just remember haste is tasty too.

@Jbs: I like that, &quot;Disc-curious.&quot; Glad you find my posts helpful!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Matojo: Nothing wrong with crit! Just remember haste is tasty too.</p>
<p>@Jbs: I like that, &#8220;Disc-curious.&#8221; Glad you find my posts helpful!</p>
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		<title>By: jbs</title>
		<link>http://divineaegis.com/2009/10/13/l2discipline-stat/comment-page-1/#comment-166</link>
		<dc:creator>jbs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 00:15:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great series so far. I&#039;m a dual specced holy/shadow priest who&#039;s recently become &quot;Disc-curious,&quot; and switched my shadow spec to disc this morning. Your posts have been very helpful, thanks much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great series so far. I&#8217;m a dual specced holy/shadow priest who&#8217;s recently become &#8220;Disc-curious,&#8221; and switched my shadow spec to disc this morning. Your posts have been very helpful, thanks much.</p>
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		<title>By: Matojo</title>
		<link>http://divineaegis.com/2009/10/13/l2discipline-stat/comment-page-1/#comment-161</link>
		<dc:creator>Matojo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 18:18:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m loving this series! I&#039;m also glad to see that I&#039;m doing it right, to a degree. xD Must get over crit addiction, I think I&#039;m up to 24% Holy crit.
.-= Matojo´s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://matojo.wordpress.com/2009/10/22/a-mild-detour-matojo-has-no-patience-for-stupid/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;A Mild Detour: Matojo Has No Patience for Stupid&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m loving this series! I&#8217;m also glad to see that I&#8217;m doing it right, to a degree. xD Must get over crit addiction, I think I&#8217;m up to 24% Holy crit.<br />
<span class="cluv"> Matojo´s last blog ..<a href="http://matojo.wordpress.com/2009/10/22/a-mild-detour-matojo-has-no-patience-for-stupid/" >A Mild Detour: Matojo Has No Patience for Stupid</a> <span class="heart_tip_box"><img class="heart_tip" alt="My ComLuv Profile" border="0" width="16" height="14" src="http://divineaegis.com/wp-content/plugins/commentluv/images/littleheart.gif"/></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: Lilitharien</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lilitharien</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 13:29:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Ellanelia: Thank you! Should be up by the end of the week. :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Ellanelia: Thank you! Should be up by the end of the week. :D</p>
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		<title>By: Ellanelia</title>
		<link>http://divineaegis.com/2009/10/13/l2discipline-stat/comment-page-1/#comment-159</link>
		<dc:creator>Ellanelia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 16:35:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a great series of posts. I am leveling Shadow and looking to heal as Disc when I hit 80. I&#039;m very much looking forward to reading your next installment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a great series of posts. I am leveling Shadow and looking to heal as Disc when I hit 80. I&#8217;m very much looking forward to reading your next installment.</p>
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		<title>By: Lilitharien</title>
		<link>http://divineaegis.com/2009/10/13/l2discipline-stat/comment-page-1/#comment-156</link>
		<dc:creator>Lilitharien</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 20:35:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Lyrandre: True, if you have gear that you know you&#039;re going to be using for &lt;strong&gt;both&lt;/strong&gt; specs it would benefit you to choose spirit over MP5. But keep in mind the benefit would only be showing in your offspec, so I&#039;m still of the opinion that your main spec should be as optimal as possible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Lyrandre: True, if you have gear that you know you&#8217;re going to be using for <strong>both</strong> specs it would benefit you to choose spirit over MP5. But keep in mind the benefit would only be showing in your offspec, so I&#8217;m still of the opinion that your main spec should be as optimal as possible.</p>
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		<title>By: Lyrandre</title>
		<link>http://divineaegis.com/2009/10/13/l2discipline-stat/comment-page-1/#comment-155</link>
		<dc:creator>Lyrandre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 20:23:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For happy dual speccing priests I&#039;d reccomend spirit over mp5 if you&#039;re blending your gear sets together, since holy and shadow (to a lesser extent) both find it more useful than mp5...

...yes?   I think so...

...hi, my name is Amber and I&#039;m a fail Disc/Shadow priest.  :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For happy dual speccing priests I&#8217;d reccomend spirit over mp5 if you&#8217;re blending your gear sets together, since holy and shadow (to a lesser extent) both find it more useful than mp5&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230;yes?   I think so&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230;hi, my name is Amber and I&#8217;m a fail Disc/Shadow priest.  :D</p>
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		<title>By: Lilitharien</title>
		<link>http://divineaegis.com/2009/10/13/l2discipline-stat/comment-page-1/#comment-152</link>
		<dc:creator>Lilitharien</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 17:10:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@BobTurkey: Yep that&#039;s what I do, too. Except for blue sockets.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@BobTurkey: Yep that&#8217;s what I do, too. Except for blue sockets.</p>
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		<title>By: BobTurkey</title>
		<link>http://divineaegis.com/2009/10/13/l2discipline-stat/comment-page-1/#comment-151</link>
		<dc:creator>BobTurkey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 22:26:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I second this.  Great post!

I&#039;m not doing any ToC25 heroic yet (starting soon) and my stats are:

Spellpower 2410 and intellect 1355.  I follow socket colours but gem towards spell power then intellect

Gobble gobble.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I second this.  Great post!</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not doing any ToC25 heroic yet (starting soon) and my stats are:</p>
<p>Spellpower 2410 and intellect 1355.  I follow socket colours but gem towards spell power then intellect</p>
<p>Gobble gobble.</p>
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		<title>By: Lilitharien</title>
		<link>http://divineaegis.com/2009/10/13/l2discipline-stat/comment-page-1/#comment-150</link>
		<dc:creator>Lilitharien</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 12:53:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Chris Oh, no! You didn&#039;t rub &lt;em&gt;me&lt;/em&gt; the wrong way, I&#039;m just saying that that&#039;s how I don&#039;t want to come off on this blog. :) I read EJ very sparingly, only for the essentials.

And yes, early morning sucks. D: (Especially if, like me, you&#039;ve yet to go to sleep.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Chris Oh, no! You didn&#8217;t rub <em>me</em> the wrong way, I&#8217;m just saying that that&#8217;s how I don&#8217;t want to come off on this blog. :) I read EJ very sparingly, only for the essentials.</p>
<p>And yes, early morning sucks. D: (Especially if, like me, you&#8217;ve yet to go to sleep.)</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Anthony &#124; Duct Tape and a Prayer</title>
		<link>http://divineaegis.com/2009/10/13/l2discipline-stat/comment-page-1/#comment-149</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Anthony &#124; Duct Tape and a Prayer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 12:50:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Understood. I&#039;m truly sorry that I came off as arrogant. I didn&#039;t mean to; in fact, that&#039;s why I actively &lt;em&gt;avoid&lt;/em&gt; Elitist Jerks.

I missed your comments on Intellect/crit/mp5 and Spirit/Intellect. I blame the early morning.

433 haste is the character-sheet value - without the 6% from talents.

Again, sorry for rubbing you the wrong way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Understood. I&#8217;m truly sorry that I came off as arrogant. I didn&#8217;t mean to; in fact, that&#8217;s why I actively <em>avoid</em> Elitist Jerks.</p>
<p>I missed your comments on Intellect/crit/mp5 and Spirit/Intellect. I blame the early morning.</p>
<p>433 haste is the character-sheet value &#8211; without the 6% from talents.</p>
<p>Again, sorry for rubbing you the wrong way.</p>
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		<title>By: Lilitharien</title>
		<link>http://divineaegis.com/2009/10/13/l2discipline-stat/comment-page-1/#comment-148</link>
		<dc:creator>Lilitharien</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 12:25:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Chris Yes, that is way more complex than I intended. The L2Disc series is aimed at priests who are fairly new, or just haven&#039;t tried Discipline yet. I didn&#039;t want it to be over complicated. In my experience, from when I first started out, reading anything that was based on equations and numbers and all that lovely math stuff just went over my head—I didn&#039;t get it. I do now, of course, since I&#039;ve been playing for a while now but to someone who is new or hasn&#039;t tried something yet it won&#039;t make any sense. It also comes off as really arrogant to me. If someone is looking for arrogant theorycraft, their best bet is Elitist Jerks, not here.

I did mention that Intellect gives MP5 and crit rating as well as a larger mana pool. I also mentioned about Spirit and it&#039;s link to Intellect and referenced Zusterke for further explanation (he&#039;s &lt;em&gt;way&lt;/em&gt; more mathy than I am). Also never said that SP was a 1-to-1 basis on any spells.

As for haste—is that 433 including the 197 (6%) you get from talents or not?

(And, yes, lists don&#039;t work in comments. I stuck asterisks where you would have had bullet points. :P)

But, thank you for pointing all those little details out. I&#039;m sure anyone who reads this will also take note of your comment. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Chris Yes, that is way more complex than I intended. The L2Disc series is aimed at priests who are fairly new, or just haven&#8217;t tried Discipline yet. I didn&#8217;t want it to be over complicated. In my experience, from when I first started out, reading anything that was based on equations and numbers and all that lovely math stuff just went over my head—I didn&#8217;t get it. I do now, of course, since I&#8217;ve been playing for a while now but to someone who is new or hasn&#8217;t tried something yet it won&#8217;t make any sense. It also comes off as really arrogant to me. If someone is looking for arrogant theorycraft, their best bet is Elitist Jerks, not here.</p>
<p>I did mention that Intellect gives MP5 and crit rating as well as a larger mana pool. I also mentioned about Spirit and it&#8217;s link to Intellect and referenced Zusterke for further explanation (he&#8217;s <em>way</em> more mathy than I am). Also never said that SP was a 1-to-1 basis on any spells.</p>
<p>As for haste—is that 433 including the 197 (6%) you get from talents or not?</p>
<p>(And, yes, lists don&#8217;t work in comments. I stuck asterisks where you would have had bullet points. :P)</p>
<p>But, thank you for pointing all those little details out. I&#8217;m sure anyone who reads this will also take note of your comment. :)</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Anthony &#124; Duct Tape and a Prayer</title>
		<link>http://divineaegis.com/2009/10/13/l2discipline-stat/comment-page-1/#comment-147</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Anthony &#124; Duct Tape and a Prayer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 11:36:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sadly, lists do not work. ;_; You may assume a bullet before &quot;It&#039;s true&quot;, &quot;Intellect isn&#039;t&quot;, &quot;Your instinct&quot;, and &quot;I tend&quot;. &gt;_&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sadly, lists do not work. ;_; You may assume a bullet before &#8220;It&#8217;s true&#8221;, &#8220;Intellect isn&#8217;t&#8221;, &#8220;Your instinct&#8221;, and &#8220;I tend&#8221;. &gt;_&gt;</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Anthony &#124; Duct Tape and a Prayer</title>
		<link>http://divineaegis.com/2009/10/13/l2discipline-stat/comment-page-1/#comment-146</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Anthony &#124; Duct Tape and a Prayer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 11:35:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a good post! :) In general, I agree with your analysis.

I know it&#039;s an introductory post, but there are a couple other things I&#039;d like to point out:

&lt;em&gt;(here&#039;s hoping that lists work here!)&lt;/em&gt;

* It&#039;s true that SP increases how much your spells heal for, but not on a 1-to-1 basis. Each spell has a spellpower coefficient that dictates how much benefit they get from your spellpower. For instance, Power Word: Shield gains about 80.7% of your spellpower; each tick of Penance gains about 53.6%.
* Intellect isn&#039;t just about increasing your mana pool; it also influences your spell critical strike chance and the amount of mana you get back from Spirit-based regeneration. Every ~167 Intellect gives you 1% spell crit; the relationship of Intellect to Spirit-based regen is more complicated, but suffice it to say that the more Intellect you have, the better Spirit is.
* Your instinct about Spirit gear giving less regen than MP5 gear is spot-on; MP5 is cheaper in an item&#039;s stat budget than the amount of Spirit needed to get that much non-casting regen. (Remember, at best we get 50% of our Spirit-based regen while we&#039;re casting.)
* I tend to recommend that Discipline priests gear to 433 haste rating; because haste is multiplicative (instead of [haste from gear] + [Enlightenment] + [Borrowed Time], it&#039;s [haste from gear] x [Enlightenment] x [Borrowed Time]), that&#039;s just enough to get the GCD to 1 second while Borrowed Time is up.

That may be more complex than you wanted to get in this post, but from experience it&#039;s easy to overlook small details when you&#039;re writing a post, so I wanted to make sure this stuff was said. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a good post! :) In general, I agree with your analysis.</p>
<p>I know it&#8217;s an introductory post, but there are a couple other things I&#8217;d like to point out:</p>
<p><em>(here&#8217;s hoping that lists work here!)</em></p>
<p>* It&#8217;s true that SP increases how much your spells heal for, but not on a 1-to-1 basis. Each spell has a spellpower coefficient that dictates how much benefit they get from your spellpower. For instance, Power Word: Shield gains about 80.7% of your spellpower; each tick of Penance gains about 53.6%.<br />
* Intellect isn&#8217;t just about increasing your mana pool; it also influences your spell critical strike chance and the amount of mana you get back from Spirit-based regeneration. Every ~167 Intellect gives you 1% spell crit; the relationship of Intellect to Spirit-based regen is more complicated, but suffice it to say that the more Intellect you have, the better Spirit is.<br />
* Your instinct about Spirit gear giving less regen than MP5 gear is spot-on; MP5 is cheaper in an item&#8217;s stat budget than the amount of Spirit needed to get that much non-casting regen. (Remember, at best we get 50% of our Spirit-based regen while we&#8217;re casting.)<br />
* I tend to recommend that Discipline priests gear to 433 haste rating; because haste is multiplicative (instead of [haste from gear] + [Enlightenment] + [Borrowed Time], it&#8217;s [haste from gear] x [Enlightenment] x [Borrowed Time]), that&#8217;s just enough to get the GCD to 1 second while Borrowed Time is up.</p>
<p>That may be more complex than you wanted to get in this post, but from experience it&#8217;s easy to overlook small details when you&#8217;re writing a post, so I wanted to make sure this stuff was said. :)</p>
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